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Corporal Edmund Arnsby, son of Samuel Arnsby, brother of Henry Alfred Arnsby
Cpl Edmund Arnsby

Samuel Arnsby & Charlotte Lloyd

Samuel & Charlotte
1859 - Is this when Samuel died?

Their children:

Henry Alfred Arnsby
Edmund Arnsby
Samuel Robert Arnsby
Charlotte 'Sophia' Rebecca Arnsby

Henry Arnsby & Jemima Yarlett

Henry & Jemima's family
    The Yarlett Family
Henry's Military Career

Their children:

Edmund Arnsby & Elizabeth Oglesby

Their children:

Lizzie Arnsby & James Ford

The Ford Family

'Ned' Arnsby & Margaret Coughlan

Their children:

Margaret's father - Cornelius Coughlan

Cornelius Coughlan

'Ned' Arnsby & Grace Mullen

Their children:

Cyril Edmund Arnsby

'Con' Arnsby & Marguerite Connor

Their children:

'Sophie' Arnsby & William Phillips

'Bob' Arnsby & Delia Connors

The Arnsby Eleven

Samuel Arnsby


Born:
Circa 1793, 1796
At: Uppingham, Rutland, England
Occupation:
Milkman, Cheese Monger, Traveler, Butcher

Marriage: June 3, 1826
At: Codicote, Hertfordshire, England
Witnesses: Sam Covvatt (?), Elizabeth Lloyd, Henry and Mary Morgan

Spouse: Charlotte Lloyd

Born: ca 1796
At: Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Occupation: Monthly Nurse
Died: January 9, 1865
At: Hoxton New Town, Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

Children

Henry Alfred Arnsby (1828 - 1887)
Edmund Arnsby (1832 - 1877)
Samuel Robert Arnsby (1834 - ? )
Charlotte Sophia Rebecca Arnsby (1836 - 1901 unconfirmed)

About Samuel and Charlotte

On October 19th 1828, at the Christening of their eldest son Henry, Samuel and Charlotte's 'Place of Abode' listed as Vauxhall Walk, Lambeth.

Eleven years laster when the 1841 Census was done we find the family living on Moneyers Street, St. Leonard's Shoreditch, Middlesex, England. Samuel's occupation is listed as a 'Milkman'.

Ten years later, when the 1851 Census was taken (March 30, 1851), we find the family living at 9 Mark Street, Tower Hamlet, Shoreditch, Middlesex, England.

On the 1851 Census, Samuel's occupation was listed as a 'Cheese Monger' and Charlotte's occupation is listed as 'Monthly Nurse'.

On son Edmunds' Marriage Certificate, Samuel's occupation is listed as a 'Traveler'.

On daughter 'Sophia's' Marriage Certificate in 1865 we have Samuel's occupation was listed as being a 'Butcher'. However, we have Charlotte's Death Certificate that was issued in 1865 and on it she is listed as being the widow of Samuel Arnsby, a 'Milkman'.

Samuel's occupations:

 
Year
Occupation Source
 
1841
Milkman 1841 Census
 
1851
Cheese Monger 1851 Census
 
1856
Traveler Son Edmund's Marriage Certificate
 
1865
Butcher Dau. Sophia's Marriage Certificate

We do not know when Samuel died and we do not know where Samuel and Charlotte are buried.

A professional Geneloaoglist hired by Eileen Marie Arnsby wrote that a possible burial grounds/cemeteries for Charlotte:

  • St. John Baptist Hoxton Burial Ground
  • St. Thomas Square Freehold Burial Ground, Mare Street, Hackney
  • Victoria Park Cemetery, Hackney
  • Tower Hamlets Cemetery
  • Brookwood Cemetery, Woking, Surrey
  • The Parish Church of St. John Baptist, where Samuel and Charlotte had their children

Children Samuel, Charlotte, and Edmund were baptised (1834 -1842) a short distance from Allerton Street.

The burial registers of the church were searched at the Greater London Record Office (ref. P91/JNB/85). The registers end in 1868, but as there are only four entries for the 1860s - none of them Charlotte - the Search Room Officer suggested that the churchyard might have been closed for burials in the 1850s, and the four burials in the 1860s were interred in existing graves.

Note from Eileen Maries' papers:

(1850 Metropolitan Interments Act) forbidding further periods in churchyards. The burial registers for St. Thomas Square (ref.PRO RG8/41) and Victoria Park (ref. PRO RG8/46) were searched at the Public Record Office.

There were no burials at St. Thomas in 1865, and very few after1860; the burials at Victoria Park were searched for January and February 1865 without success.

Hoxton now falls within the London Borough of Hackney. The Hackney Archives Department suggested Tower Hamlets (City of London & Tower Hamlets Cemetery, just to the south of the Mile End road) and Brookwood Cemetery, which I think highly unlikely, being many miles outside London.

Death Certificate of Grandson Edmund HenryArnsby, son of HenryAlfred and Jemima Arnsby:

On August 2, 1852, his Grandmother Charlotte Arnsby present at the time of his death at 71 Motley Street, Shoreditch, Middlesex, England

Death Certificate for Charlotte Arnsby:

On January 9, 1865, Charlotte Arnsby, age 69 years. Widow of Samuel Arnsby a Milkman. The 'X' Mark of daughter Charlotte Arnsby present at the time of death at 3 Allerton Street, Hoxton New Town, Shoreditch, Middlesex, England.

Pictures for Samuel and Charlotte Arnsby
 
       
IGI Marriage Record for Samuel Arnsby and Charlotte Lloyd
Samuel and family on the 1841 British Census
Christening record for Edmund Arnsby
Samuel and family on the 1851 British Census
IGI Marriage Record
1841 Census
February 2, 1842
Christening record for son Edmund Arnsby
1851 Census
       
Marriage Certificate for Edmund and Elizabeth
Death Certificate for Charlotte (Lloyd) Arnsby
Marriage Certificate for Charlotte and Joseph
October 10, 1856
Marriage Certificate for son Edmund
January 9, 1865
Death Certificate for Charlotte (Lloyd) Arnsby
October 11, 1865
Dau Sophia's Marriage Certificate
       
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